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annie Cast Member

Posts: 321 Registered: Aug 2002
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09-05-02 04:46 PM
I'm curious, can any of our computer smart people explain what is talking about? Not whether or not it's actually happening, but what it would be if it was happening (does that make sense?) In other words, what exactly is self-pinging and how would one be able to ping oneself?
I understand what pinging is, I just don't know how you could ping yourself and not know you are pinging yourself.
ping ping ping (such a fun word)
But really, I'd like to know! "Are the fires of Hell a-glowing? Is the grisly reaper mowing? Who can provide the world with the answer to these pressing questions?"
"The candy man can," Rumsfeld added grimly.
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Lunarlady Cast Member

Posts: 1629 Registered: Aug 2002
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09-05-02 05:13 PM
It is my understanding (and someone here please correct me if I'm wrong) that a ping is a poll to see if an address is there. It's a signal comprised of bits that, to make it simple, says "Are you there?"
You can self-ping when you go to a website designed to test your firewall. You enter in your address (or some websites poll you automatically) and request them to ping you. ("are you there?")
Another example of "self-ping", and I think (but I'm not sure) that THIS may be what Ms. Aero is speaking of, is when you send out a ping to an address and it answers you back in turn. ("Are you there?", "Yes, I am")
The only instances in my experience of repeated "self-pings" that I am aware of is when you ping a modem and it streams accidentally. Streaming is like when a modem is caught in a loop and it keeps answering you even when you don't ask:
"Are you there?"
"Yes I am" ::hiccup::
"Yes I am" ::hiccup::
"Yes I am" ::hiccup::
"Yes I am" ::hiccup::
"Yes I am" ::hiccup::
"Yes I am" ::hiccup::
"Yes I am" ::hiccup::
Now, admittedly, my experience can be considered limited. After all, the more I learn about Networks and Systems, the more I realize have much to learn. I know that modems can stream and the only fix I have found in the past is to physically boot the port to the modem or actually turn it off and back on. (Something your average internet user cannot do, especially if the modem is across the country from you)
However, I find it hard to believe that the same address, which may have different modems or ports, can be streaming or "self-pinging" in Ms. Aero's terms, on a continual daily, weekly and monthly basis.
Streaming modems cause problems and I would surmise that the techs who watch these modems would want to isolate the problem and fix it so that it can be productive again. No business wants to lose money because of a faulty modem or port.
Hopefully, if I'm mistaken in my definitions, someone
will correct me.
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Coastalwader Cast Member

Posts: 935 Registered: Aug 2002
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09-05-02 08:15 PM
LL, I think that's pretty close.
Firewall logs are a wonderful thing. So are University tech departments. Some of this stuff is pretty hard to dispute.
King Unca Bubba Lord DisneyTex
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Tink *~*~* Cast Member

Posts: 1066 Registered: Aug 2002
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09-05-02 11:14 PM
After careful thought, I have decided that the term "self-pinging" is being used as a euphemism for other "self" activities, such as those that take place in the corner. In other words, it was probably meant as an insult. Tink *~*~*
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Lunarlady Cast Member

Posts: 1629 Registered: Aug 2002
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09-06-02 12:38 AM
quote: Tink *~*~* wrote:
After careful thought, I have decided that the term "self-pinging" is being used as a euphemism for other "self" activities, such as those that take place in the corner. In other words, it was probably meant as an insult.
hee hee hee....it's all a matter of perspective, Tink. All perspective and how you choose to react.
To some, "self" activities are dirty and unwholesome. That's their problem. To me, self activities are MOST gratifying and to anyone accusing me of doing these self-activities and implying that there's something wrong with me for doing these things, I have a few responses:
1). Don't knock it until you've tried it.
2). Poor is the man whose pleasure depends on the permission of another.
3). You obviously need some more "self" activities to brighten up your outlook on life.
4). Sticks and stones may break my bones, but please don't throw sticks and stones. Please, please...don't throw sticks and stones. Please....
(I used to be a HUGE Gilligan's Island nut. Those
that remember the "Hamlet" episode will recall Gilligan
saying the above line)
**edited because it's late and I'm not thinking. That quote came from the "Dr. Gilligan and Mr. Hyde" episode when the mild-mannered Dr. Gilligan was accused of being the evil Mr. Hyde. It's too late for me to be online**
[Edited by Lunarlady]
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Robin Cast Member

Posts: 940 Registered: Aug 2002
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09-06-02 01:22 AM
quote: Tink *~*~* wrote:
After careful thought, I have decided that the term "self-pinging" is being used as a euphemism for other "self" activities, such as those that take place in the corner. In other words, it was probably meant as an insult.
Gee...It was the self hacking comment that made me chuckle.
Um...self hacking would actually be...let's see... Logging into your own computer? but, If you give yourself permission to log on to your own computer, it's not hacking. Duh! I toss my cookies for Disney.
I wonder what inspired this new Disney T-shirt? "I'm right. You're wrong. Any Questions?"
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annie Cast Member

Posts: 321 Registered: Aug 2002
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09-06-02 08:08 AM
Thanks for the replies. LL, your Gilligan's Island knowledge amazes me and I thank you for the giggles.
I also spoke to a couple computer wise people I know IRL and they laughed heartily when I said "self-pinging." Self-hacking sounds like it's either painful or fun, depending on where you want to go with that.
ping ping ping ping hack
Ouch!
annie "Are the fires of Hell a-glowing? Is the grisly reaper mowing? Who can provide the world with the answer to these pressing questions?"
"The candy man can," Rumsfeld added grimly.
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Crank Administrator

Posts: 1957 Registered: Aug 2002
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09-06-02 06:46 PM
quote: Lunarlady wrote:
Another example of "self-ping", and I think (but I'm not sure) that THIS may be what Ms. Aero is speaking of, is when you send out a ping to an address and it answers you back in turn. ("Are you there?", "Yes, I am")
This partially correct.
Typically you will "ping" an address and the results are a figure in milleseconds of the "roundtrip" time of the ping.
You ping an address and the address answers.
This roundtrip is one "ping".
Some firewalls can be set to not return this "ping". I like persons better than principles, and I like persons with no principles better than anything else in the world.
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