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08-29-02 07:08 PM  
discernment OK DanK lets examine my posts that you took issue with:

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discernment wrote:

Oh boy, here i go with a controversial point of view, but all the people who make death threats are not necessrily filled with "hate" there could be many motivations including "hate" especially in an online forum that people would make direct, implied, figurative, or indirect death threats.
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Ok, no where in this statement did i condone, encourage, applaud, or try to justify death threats. As i have stated numerous times, i find these threats deplorable and yes threatening someone with force is condiser terroristic. In the previous threads about the topic I was merely discussing what constitutes a death threat. Thats all. AGAIN I have stated countless times that the threat KUH received was and is unexcusable na dcan not be justified in any manner especially when you put it in the context of a breakfast. In the post that you quoted me on, i was merely stating that "hate" is not always the motivating factor in such threats that occur on the internet. Other motivations and causes that come to mind are attention seekers, flamers, trolls, parody, intimidation, cries for help, mental illness, etc.

Dont take this one step further and even suggest that I condone this sort of activity. One does not have to condone an activity to be engaged in a discussion about it. You were quick to jump all over my quoted statement and misconstrue my position to other readers that may not have read the other threads in their entire context but you neglected to make mention of the countless times i stated that I do not condone nor agree with making death threats to another person. I never attempted to draw a distinction between "bad" or "good" threats. My only point was that threats can be implied, direct, figurative, indirect, etc. This does not say one threat is "OK" to make while another is "BAD". I never tried to justify or excuse the threat made toward KUH. In fact i stated that if i was in his position i might have done the same thing. Show me where i suggested that we take "compassion" on those who make death threats.

DanK i am truly offended that you have suggested that I condone death threats and try to justify the people who make such threats. Bottom line, i found the whole discussion regarding death threats compelling and wanted to learn what others thought consituted a threat. So, please do not imply to others that i support this type of behavior. Again, one does not have to believe and support something in order to have a rational, intelligent conversation about it. I would never threaten someone, encourage this action,justify, or condone death threats. To suggest that i would based on my posts is absurd.

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08-29-02 08:05 PM  
Dan K Well discernment, I owe you an apology. I just went back and read all of your posts on the whole issue and indeed, I misinterpreted your post that I quoted and overreacted based on what I ASSUMED you meant, and in so doing I did end up overstating my case to the point that I unfairly misrepresented your position. I am truly sorry. It is clear to me now that you DID NOT attempt to justify or excuse ANY type of death threats, or urge compassion for those who made them. I was wrong to say that you did. Next time I will read (and reread) more carefully before responding.

I still think that we may have something of a difference of opinion about the significance of what you call "implied, figurative or indirect threats." And I don't think I understand at this point why you think it is important to distinguish between different types of motivation for making threats. But those are more subtle issues than the black and white way I (mis)interpreted your quote. You have indeed consistently stated that you did not approve or condone of any such behavior by anybody. I let my irYKWtion and distress about this whole topic get the better of me. I was not justified in getting up on my high righteous indignation horse. Please believe that it was not my intention to smear you. Again, I am truly sorry.
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