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Dab
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 Posted 01-18-03 10:40 PM           
Someone sent me a copy so I went and looked for myself.
I know it's been quiet but this cracks me up.
Under their gallery for trip reports it states this:


We advise you to never post a trip report on any other Disney-fan website, where the typical webmaster has no professional security training, and persons with evil-intent are allowed to read without being carefully pre-screened. There are ugly people online who prey on and harrass Walt Disney World travelers. We know who most of them are, and they are rigorously banned from the Magic Key Club and criminally prosecuted whenever possible.

Are they that hard up to try to persuade others from going to other websites? I know they have DOD software and all LOL but this is a bunch of crap. For the DUH challenged, the trip report is after you've returned and unless you give out your name, address and phone number, big whop if you describe how your time went while you were there. Oooo the ramifications those criminals could do with what you DID a week ago : )
They need to give up on this criminally prosecuted whenever possible crap. Just tell the truth! No one's been prosecuted. Now the FBI is going after people who read trip reports LOL
Carefully prescreened??? Oooooo I had no idea getting on a Disney related website was so undercover. I thought this was all suppose to be for fun.
They are nuts, sorry. I can see telling someone not to post dates and PS's, room numbers etc before you go but it's stupid to tell people not to post their trip reports elsewhere. Those criminals you know! Here's a news flash, those criminals are people who don't believe their crud they spew and call them on it. They don't seem to like that too much. Personally, I think they are a joke. I'm sorry if that offends anyone but in all honesty, YKW are total jokes and are laughed about by quite a few people that I know.
phamton
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 Posted 01-18-03 11:42 PM             
Very interesting. Did you read KUH's trip report Part 1 and 2? It was also very interesting. He was warned (before he went) not to wear any identification while at the park. Were one of you planning on beating him up or something? He also had some interesting experiences at Cindy's Breakfast.

Bev
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TrpltJanie
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 Posted 01-18-03 11:53 PM          
Soooooooooooo....I would be better off posting MY trip report on her website?!? Ya know, I can't afford to be hassled by evil people like....oh...umm...Mary and Robb who keeps picking on me over my "slow as molasses in January" progress in typing up my trip reports.

:P

(taking off to hide under the bed from Mary and Robb)







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Robin
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 Posted 01-18-03 11:56 PM         
quote:
phamton wrote:
Very interesting. Did you read KUH's trip report Part 1 and 2? It was also very interesting. He was warned (before he went) not to wear any identification while at the park. Were one of you planning on beating him up or something? He also had some interesting experiences at Cindy's Breakfast.

Bev



I saw that too. Then goes around telling everyone who he is. Sounds like he's no where near as concern about his security, as he is craving attention.

I can't imagine anyone who would risk spoiling their vacation to bother with him.
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Robb
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 Posted 01-19-03 12:35 AM        
KUH made is bed, and now he has to sleep in it. If you do not do dishonest and slimy things, there is no reason to hide on vacation.

Remember, he compared himself to Osama Bin Laden. They should both hide in a cave. When you are paranoid, the only person you really have to fear is yourself.

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VanBrujah
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 Posted 01-19-03 01:13 AM           
So I went over and checked out this trip report - this may be one of the funniest things I have ever read. This man has no shame at all. The sad thing is: He really means this stuff. For those who don't wish to make the trip over there, here are a few selected quotes. I have not made any changes to them at all.

WARNING: IF YOU ARE ENJOYING A BEVERAGE, PLEASE PUT IT DOWN BEFORE YOU BEGIN READING.


"...the 'political' concerns were all the ramifications of the Cindys saga which had left a muted feel to the trip. I was advised not to wear any of my badges with any identifying features on them as to my name to avoid any confrontations that might arise while at WDW. That in itself took some of the fun out of everything because it is so much fun interacting with everyone when they see your name..."


This one is one of my favorites

"I had called my contact on the Walt Disney Company Board of Directors to explain what had been going on with the Cindys saga and if something could be done to protect my PS’s from being cancelled. I, myself, had already attached a code word to them so that only someone knowing that word could cancel them. But if a CM wanted to cancel them they could easily do it. So my contact took care of that too. Nobody could touch my PS’s without first emailing the Board for verification. Later I will explain how this looked at the podium lol. And by the way, the Board knew nothing about any of the Cindys saga except that one now needed to leave a deposit when making a PS. When I mentioned that it was all because of me we had a good laugh and my contact was amazed with all the stories I told her about everything."


Remember, everything is all about him -

"If you remember I mentioned that I wore no identifying badges, but I did have the Passporter pouch on to carry my APs and FP's and receipts. I also had the CP badge on for that evening. While we were eating a woman came over to me from another table who was also wearing the Passporter pouch and asked me where I got the CP badge from. She introduced herself and then as I was about to say my name Susan cringed. When I said that I was KUH the woman backed up a bit and smiled and said she knew the name. Oh well, what is life without some notoriety lol. I told her that I hope she was enjoying the breakfast that Disney created because of me and we laughed ;-)."


Apparently he isn't the only one in his family who believes it is all about him -

"When I checked in again this time they asked for my photo ID. I know that with the new system in place they are supposed to see proof, but when we stood back and watched the next ten people check in, nobody else was asked to show theirs. Susan got a little annoyed and the attorney in her came into play and after breakfast she went over to the podium and asked why they only asked me for ID. She was told that people are randomly asked and nobody is singled out - yeah right ;-). Well one thing is for sure, the CMs finally got to see 'the King' at their podium this trip after having heard so much about him and hearing and seeing his name at their podium for a long time."

I can't wait to see the next installment. If you aren't worried about them hacking into your machine, I strongly encourage you to go over and read this. It's like a car accident on the road...you hate like hell to look, but you are strangely compelled....

VanBrujah
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judy
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 Posted 01-19-03 02:07 AM         
quote:
VanBrujah wrote:

"...the 'political' concerns were all the ramifications of the Cindys saga which had left a muted feel to the trip. I was advised not to wear any of my badges with any identifying features on them as to my name to avoid any confrontations that might arise while at WDW. That in itself took some of the fun out of everything because it is so much fun interacting with everyone when they see your name..."



So WHO, except for CM's wears name badges at WDW? Maybe people talk to him because they think he works there, walking around with badges all over?
He's probably ticked that kids at the princess breakfast wanted to have their pictures taken with princesses instead of "king KUH."
AND - about asking for ID - OK, once upon a time, PS's under his name were made by the BFC all the time. There could be several "KUH Parties" on any day. So - if you didn't make a PS and wanted to try for breakfast, walking up and saying you were the "KUH party" just might get you a table, right? So - asking for ID's from anyone with that name makes sense, right? KUH makes a big deal about trying to use some code word to protect his PS so nobody cancels it - and then he feels singled out when they ask for ID?
Last question - if you're the first guests to arrive and be seated, how in the world would you know if the guests arriving after you are seated are asked for IDs? KUH says they weren't - that nobody else all day was asked for ID. what sis he do - hang around the podium for three hours and keep track?

judy
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judy
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 Posted 01-19-03 02:43 AM          
quote:


We advise you to never post a trip report on any other Disney-fan website, where the typical webmaster has no professional security training, and persons with evil-intent are allowed to read without being carefully pre-screened. There are ugly people online who prey on and harrass Walt Disney World travelers. We know who most of them are, and they are rigorously banned from the Magic Key Club and criminally prosecuted whenever possible.




So who are they keeping out? who is "rigorously banned"? The site is fairly easily accessed - redundant and confusing, but easily accessed. Anyone can read a trip report without any security clearance or pre-screening.
And no questions about whether I had "evil intent" in reading trip reports, either.
judy
Robin
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 Posted 01-19-03 02:52 AM         
When my friend's kids were small, they had name tags inside their shirts or fanny packs. No where did we want their names displayed. We didn't want to risk strangers come up them and pretending to know them. (Hi Amy, you Mom is over here, and asked me to come get you.) As for a adult wearing a badge....I just don't get it. It might make for interesting conversation if you have a unique name, but beyond that, I see it as setting possibly setting yourself up as a mark for a scam artist.

My guess is the person who insisted he not wear his badge is the same one who 'cringed' when he told some stranger his name. I don't see how wearing a badge would effect your interaction with others...unless you are looking for a reaction. I don't think he cares if it's negative or positive, he just wants attention.
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VanBrujah
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 Posted 01-19-03 03:00 AM            
Anyone want to bet on how long before "someone notifies" King Uncle Idiot that he's being talked about again?

It's a difficult choice:

Someone this evil and insipid just BEGS for discussion, yet discussing him is the very thing he craves most. If he didn't have the fawning syncophants over there, he'd most likely die of lonliness.

So, I simply choose to make fun of him. The phrase "pathetic loser" springs to mind.

Just remember, kids: It's ALL about him.

VB
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Francine
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 Posted 01-19-03 09:07 AM       
I'd love to know just who advised KUH to not wear any name tags. Probably his contact with the FBI, right? Or, maybe it was his contact with the Disney board of directors.

As for wearing them, we used to wear them all the time while we were there. It would make for fun conversations with the CMs, and other people. I was always asked if I worked there, or someone would come up to me and ask for directions to something.

Personally, after getting the blue screen after the last few visits over there, I won't go back. I have a really good firewall, and still, somehow, something got into my PC. I ran my Norton Utilities program, and it found errors in my active X files. I had just run it, literally right before I visited there, and everything was fine. Besides the fact that they plant a million and a half cookies on your PC.

And, as for their security, well there doesn't appear to be any that is obvious. No sign in, or anything. I mean, look, all you evil people went over there and read.

And, VB, let's not get carried away with the it's all about KUH stuff. Everyone knows who it's all about! Me!

Francine aka Queen Itsallaboutme
[Edited by Francine]
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Francine
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 Posted 01-19-03 09:59 AM        
quote:
judy wrote:



And no questions about whether I had "evil intent" in reading trip reports, either.



So, are you saying you 'did not have evil intent with those trip reports'? But, you did read them, correct? Tell me, did you consider having evil intent with them? And, please, tell the court, what exactly was your intent?

Just remember, you can expect to be criminally prosecuted whenever possible.

Francine
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Lunarlady
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 Posted 01-19-03 11:31 AM         
As far as wearing his name badge, I can see people telling him not to. After all, he appeared in a local newspaper and pretty much told Orlando how he secured PS's for strangers on the internet. I'm sure if he went there just as a normal traveller would do, he would have blended into the crowd just like everyone else.

He appears to have forgotten his bru-ha-ha over the CRT when making his reservation - IE: making a code-word, telling the reservationist he thought someone evil would cancel it, making sure some "board" would be contacted before his seating was cancelled.

Don't you think with all the history behind that ONE priority seating, the reservationist was probably told to MAKE SURE IT'S KUH before allowing someone to be seated in his name? If someone had scammed his PS, don't you think he'd have been screaming and asking why that person who took his seating hadn't been ID'd? Yet he's now complaining that HE was ID'd?

I suspect he's a legend in his own mind and loves attention; whether it's "fame" as King Uncle KUH or "infame" as that-evil-guy-who-is-stealing-CRT-ressies.

I suspect the worst thing that could happen to Howard is that he's NOT recognized or even noticed, regardless of whether it's in cyber-space or in real life. I, for one, think it's very sad to have your happiness and self-image be controlled by other people that way.

I'm also with Francine in that I won't go over to the other site if I can help it. I have no wish to have my computer altered in any way by them.


God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, the good fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the difference.
Ajax
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 Posted 01-19-03 11:35 AM             
This brought forth a chuckle from 'ol Ajax this morning-

quote:
We advise you to never post a trip report on any other Disney-fan website, where the typical webmaster has no professional security training, and persons with evil-intent are allowed to read without being carefully pre-screened. There are ugly people online who prey on and harrass Walt Disney World travelers. We know who most of them are, and they are rigorously banned from the Magic Key Club and criminally prosecuted whenever possible.


I'm all over that site! I post weekly, sometimes daily. I'm using the same two machines that I used when I was banned last spring. If those folks and their vaunted ISP sniffing software had my addys logged in their criminal file, that wouldn't be possible now, would it?

BTW, I heard that on his last trip, KUH employed a squad of look-alikes ala Saddam Hussein that dispersed themselves throughout all four parks just in case hit teams had been dispatched from the various Hater Sites. KUH was then smuggled through Utilidors to his favorite attractions and restaurants with a level of security befitting his celebrity/notoriety.
As proof of the Haters nefarious scheme, I understand there was a big run on banana cream pies and adhesive-backed 'Kick Me' signs in the Orlando area, as reported by Robert Johnson in the Orlando Sentinel.




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Coastalwader
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 Posted 01-19-03 12:33 PM           
quote:
Lunarlady wrote:
As far as wearing his name badge, I can see people telling him not to. After all, he appeared in a local newspaper and pretty much told Orlando how he secured PS's for strangers on the internet.



And enough noise on the internet that somebody might ask him a question or two. Can't say that I blame him on not wearing a name tag regardless of whether someone had to actually "suggest" the obvious or not. That would seem to fall under "no brainer" to me.

If he was by himself I could see him wearing the name tag. I think he would admit to actually enjoying the notoriety it might bring. I'm glad he decided to cut the family some slack though...man, they got to be really tired of this fiasco.

quote:

He appears to have forgotten his bru-ha-ha over the CRT when making his reservation - IE: making a code-word, telling the reservationist he thought someone evil would cancel it, making sure some "board" would be contacted before his seating was cancelled.

Don't you think with all the history behind that ONE priority seating, the reservationist was probably told to MAKE SURE IT'S KUH before allowing someone to be seated in his name? If someone had scammed his PS, don't you think he'd have been screaming and asking why that person who took his seating hadn't been ID'd? Yet he's now complaining that HE was ID'd?




I'm with you, it makes no sense. He has a "protected" PS and wonders why others who didn't have a "code word" or whatever weren't asked for ID. I think there is obviously some merit in that there were previously lots of PS's made in his name and it is now a name they would check, but either way I don't see how this was a suprise or even noteable. Sounds like somebody was simply doing thier job to me.

quote:

I suspect he's a legend in his own mind and loves attention; whether it's "fame" as King Uncle KUH or "infame" as that-evil-guy-who-is-stealing-CRT-ressies.

I suspect the worst thing that could happen to Howard is that he's NOT recognized or even noticed, regardless of whether it's in cyber-space or in real life. I, for one, think it's very sad to have your happiness and self-image be controlled by other people that way.



The thing is, he is the first one to admit that he thrives on the attention and he acknowledges that he is driven by a very big ego. Honestly, I'm not sure if I think thats sad or not. You know, the whole knowing that much about yourself and what makes you tick. He readily admits to having some traits that some feel are character flaws.

I think some of the things he's done to try to protect the place where he gets this fix are pretty sad. He knows the truth and yet he has gone along with all the lies.

Sacrificing integrity for personal gain....that to me is sad. I know there was a percentage of what he did that was done to protect YKW, his friend, and there is some degree of admirability about that. But, that all goes out the window when it's at the expense of others. This all clearly crossed that line a long time ago.




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Francine
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 Posted 01-19-03 12:36 PM           
So, Ajax, what you are saying is that you are not one of the ugly people on the internet, and you do not have evil intent, right? Because clearly, if you were ugly, and had evil intent, you would be banned, and prosecuted.

I know that for a fact, because I read it on the internet.

Francine
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annie
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 Posted 01-19-03 01:03 PM         
http://mm.dfilm.com/mm2s/mm_route.php?id=743206

enjoy
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Mary
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 Posted 01-19-03 01:06 PM            
quote:
TrpltJanie wrote:
I can't afford to be hassled by evil people like....oh...umm...Mary and Robb who keeps picking on me



Oh Boy, it looks like I'm finally a criminal! At least in Janie's wacked out mind. (But I still love you honey).
[Edited by Mary]
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Robey
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 Posted 01-19-03 03:20 PM
Very Good, Annie!

quote:
annie wrote:
http://mm.dfilm.com/mm2s/mm_route.php?id=743206

enjoy
annie


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 Posted 01-19-03 03:59 PM     
What I would like to know is if there is security in place to keep the principals away...
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Ajax
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 Posted 01-19-03 04:12 PM      
Francine, I'm as ugly as they come and even evil on occasion. So I guess I wouldn't fit in with the beautiful people at MA.
I enjoy being able to anonymously mingle on that site with people who would absolutely loathe me if they knew who I was. That may be disingenuous, but it's fun knowing that I've gotten past their wall. Their 'security' is a joke. Like I said, I haven't changed a thing on my rigs, I'm just using a different e-mail addy.

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 Posted 01-19-03 05:00 PM            
Brava Annie.
LOL
I suppose the plans to fire up the Way-Back Machine will now have to be cancelled since the "evil intent" plot has been uncovered?
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 Posted 01-19-03 05:10 PM           
Hmmmm... neither Alan or have been "professionally trained in security", but we're both securely trained professionals. Do we get any points for that? I hope; >)
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Ajax
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 Posted 01-19-03 05:49 PM         
Big points, Ahnalira! Lots of 'em.

Insecure people with a marginal bit of power are to be avoided, imo. Don't post trip reports on other Disney sites? Maybe she's on to something.....I sure hope Crank doesn't send my trip reports to the IRS. They still think I'm washing cars in Detroit for $5.45 an hour. Plus tips, of course. And I always sign my 1040 as 'Ajax'.



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 Posted 01-19-03 07:04 PM    
quote:
Ahnalira wrote:
Hmmmm... neither Alan or have been "professionally trained in security", but we're both securely trained professionals. Do we get any points for that? I hope; >)
Ahnalira



I don't know about 'securely trained professionals', but I my book, you gets points for honesty, intergrity, and consistantly positive attitude.
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Coastalwader
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 Posted 01-19-03 09:09 PM         
quote:
Robin wrote:


I don't know about 'securely trained professionals', but I my book, you gets points for honesty, intergrity, and consistantly positive attitude.



Agreed! The cream always rises to the top. Thats got to really piss some people off too.


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TrpltJanie
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 Posted 01-19-03 11:44 PM            
quote:
Mary wrote:


Oh Boy, it looks like I'm finally a criminal! At least in Janie's wacked out mind. (But I still love you honey).
[Edited by Mary]




Maaaaaaryyyyyyyyy! (hugs Mary) Thank you for making me fall off of my chair laughing.
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 Posted 01-20-03 09:59 AM          
Nothing new again. Just another insinuation about how bad the rest of the internet is. They prey on the members lack of knowledge about how things work to create a sense of loyalty byt making members feel uncomfortable elsewhere.



[Edited by Parker]
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fantayzya
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 Posted 01-20-03 10:54 AM       
I'm sorry. If this post comes out blotchy from the tears. I'm ROFLMAO!!!!! Ahhh I love laughing so hard I cry lol.

To the absolutely wonderful friend who I've been chatting with over the past few days:

Hun, you were so right.


I was told that things were not all so rosy in SoCal in the very recent past and that a possible revisiting 'shit-storm' may be headed our way. Who-dah thunk it? lol.

Oh so funny how this stuff works out eh?

I say, let 'em have their fun, if that's what they think it is. I dropped in there with my only intent being to see how some that I still give a darn about were faring and if maybe I should add a few extra thoughts or prayers for any of them and have had 'issues' with my puter since. Yes Francine, I too got the Blue Screen of Death for my troubles. To those lurking from there and reporting back, I'm the least of your worries, and frankly, with the headaches it's caused me to give a damn about something I really did care about, it's simply not worth it to even check in in lurk mode any more. To those of you who are worth a remaining ounce of trust, I'm sorry it's come to this and I wish you well. To those who have tried to assure me you are trustworthy friends, yet are also working to perpetuate this disaster. I also feel sorry. For you.

I'm on to more important things. Bigger goals, and devoting my time to things in my life that really matter and are really important. Much of which I had put way too far down the priority list while involved there. I guess a thank you is kind of in order for forcing me to see things much more clearly.


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Lunarlady
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 Posted 01-20-03 11:54 AM            
I have no clue what's going on over there because I just don't go. Two break-ins in one year were enough to convince me that I'd be better served (in this sitation) to just trust what others are saying rather than seeing for myself.

From what I've read here, it seems that they're losing members by the score. Perhaps they're raising the drawbridge to keep the remaining few in?
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