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Dab
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Posted 01-18-03
10:40 PM
Someone sent
me a copy so I went and looked for myself.
I know it's been quiet but this cracks me up.
Under their gallery for trip reports it states this:
We advise you to never post a trip report on any other Disney-fan
website, where the typical webmaster has no professional
security training, and persons with evil-intent are allowed
to read without being carefully pre-screened. There are ugly
people online who prey on and harrass Walt Disney World travelers.
We know who most of them are, and they are rigorously banned
from the Magic Key Club and criminally prosecuted whenever
possible.
Are they that hard up to try to persuade others from going
to other websites? I know they have DOD software and all
LOL but this is a bunch of crap. For the DUH challenged,
the trip report is after you've returned and unless you give
out your name, address and phone number, big whop if you
describe how your time went while you were there. Oooo the
ramifications those criminals could do with what you DID
a week ago : )
They need to give up on this criminally prosecuted whenever
possible crap. Just tell the truth! No one's been prosecuted.
Now the FBI is going after people who read trip reports LOL
Carefully prescreened??? Oooooo I had no idea getting on
a Disney related website was so undercover. I thought this
was all suppose to be for fun.
They are nuts, sorry. I can see telling someone not to post
dates and PS's, room numbers etc before you go but it's stupid
to tell people not to post their trip reports elsewhere.
Those criminals you know! Here's a news flash, those criminals
are people who don't believe their crud they spew and call
them on it. They don't seem to like that too much. Personally,
I think they are a joke. I'm sorry if that offends anyone
but in all honesty, YKW are total jokes and are laughed about
by quite a few people that I know.
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phamton
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Posted 01-18-03
11:42 PM
Very interesting.
Did you read KUH's trip report Part 1 and 2? It was
also very interesting. He was warned (before he went)
not to wear any identification while at the park.
Were one of you planning on beating him up or something?
He also had some interesting experiences at Cindy's
Breakfast.
Bev
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TrpltJanie
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Posted 01-18-03
11:53 PM
Soooooooooooo....I
would be better off posting MY trip report on her
website?!? Ya know, I can't afford to be hassled
by evil people like....oh...umm...Mary and Robb who
keeps picking on me over my "slow as molasses in
January" progress in typing up my trip reports.
:P
(taking off to hide under the bed from Mary and Robb)
Janie
"It is not a slight thing when they, who are so fresh from God, love us." Charles
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Robin
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Posted 01-18-03
11:56 PM
quote:
phamton wrote:
Very interesting. Did you read KUH's trip report Part 1
and 2? It was also very interesting. He was warned (before
he went) not to wear any identification while at the park.
Were one of you planning on beating him up or something?
He also had some interesting experiences at Cindy's Breakfast.
Bev
I saw that too. Then goes around telling everyone who he
is. Sounds like he's no where near as concern about his security,
as he is craving attention.
I can't imagine anyone who would risk spoiling their vacation
to bother with him.
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Robb
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Posted 01-19-03
12:35 AM
KUH made is
bed, and now he has to sleep in it. If you do not
do dishonest and slimy things, there is no reason
to hide on vacation.
Remember, he compared himself to Osama Bin Laden. They should
both hide in a cave. When you are paranoid, the only person
you really have to fear is yourself.
DCL Board Moderator
VISIT THE DCL BOARD TODAY!
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VanBrujah
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Posted 01-19-03
01:13 AM
So I went over
and checked out this trip report - this may be one
of the funniest things I have ever read. This man
has no shame at all. The sad thing is: He really
means this stuff. For those who don't wish to make
the trip over there, here are a few selected quotes.
I have not made any changes to them at all.
WARNING: IF YOU ARE ENJOYING A BEVERAGE, PLEASE PUT IT DOWN
BEFORE YOU BEGIN READING.
"...the 'political' concerns were all the ramifications of the Cindys saga which
had left a muted feel to the trip. I was advised not to wear any of my badges
with any identifying features on them as to my name to avoid any confrontations
that might arise while at WDW. That in itself took some of the fun out of everything
because it is so much fun interacting with everyone when they see your name..."
This one is one of my favorites
"I had called my contact on the Walt Disney Company Board of Directors to explain
what had been going on with the Cindys saga and if something could be done to
protect my PS’s from being cancelled. I, myself, had already attached a code
word to them so that only someone knowing that word could cancel them. But if
a CM wanted to cancel them they could easily do it. So my contact took care of
that too. Nobody could touch my PS’s without first emailing the Board for verification.
Later I will explain how this looked at the podium lol. And by the way, the Board
knew nothing about any of the Cindys saga except that one now needed to leave
a deposit when making a PS. When I mentioned that it was all because of me we
had a good laugh and my contact was amazed with all the stories I told her about
everything."
Remember, everything is all about him -
"If you remember I mentioned that I wore no identifying badges, but I did have
the Passporter pouch on to carry my APs and FP's and receipts. I also had the
CP badge on for that evening. While we were eating a woman came over to me from
another table who was also wearing the Passporter pouch and asked me where I
got the CP badge from. She introduced herself and then as I was about to say
my name Susan cringed. When I said that I was KUH the woman backed up a bit and
smiled and said she knew the name. Oh well, what is life without some notoriety
lol. I told her that I hope she was enjoying the breakfast that Disney created
because of me and we laughed ;-)."
Apparently he isn't the only one in his family who believes
it is all about him -
"When I checked in again this time they asked for my photo ID. I know that with
the new system in place they are supposed to see proof, but when we stood back
and watched the next ten people check in, nobody else was asked to show theirs.
Susan got a little annoyed and the attorney in her came into play and after breakfast
she went over to the podium and asked why they only asked me for ID. She was
told that people are randomly asked and nobody is singled out - yeah right ;-).
Well one thing is for sure, the CMs finally got to see 'the King' at their podium
this trip after having heard so much about him and hearing and seeing his name
at their podium for a long time."
I can't wait to see the next installment. If you aren't worried
about them hacking into your machine, I strongly encourage
you to go over and read this. It's like a car accident on
the road...you hate like hell to look, but you are strangely
compelled....
VanBrujah
I'm not a complete idiot; some parts are missing.
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION. It comes bundled with the software.
The original point and click interface was a Smith and Wesson.
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judy
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Posted 01-19-03
02:07 AM
quote:
VanBrujah wrote:
"...the 'political' concerns were all the ramifications of the Cindys saga which
had left a muted feel to the trip. I was advised not to wear any of my badges
with any identifying features on them as to my name to avoid any confrontations
that might arise while at WDW. That in itself took some of the fun out of everything
because it is so much fun interacting with everyone when they see your name..."
So WHO, except for CM's wears name badges at WDW? Maybe people
talk to him because they think he works there, walking around
with badges all over?
He's probably ticked that kids at the princess breakfast
wanted to have their pictures taken with princesses instead
of "king KUH."
AND - about asking for ID - OK, once upon a time, PS's under
his name were made by the BFC all the time. There could be
several "KUH Parties" on any day. So - if you didn't make
a PS and wanted to try for breakfast, walking up and saying
you were the "KUH party" just might get you a table, right?
So - asking for ID's from anyone with that name makes sense,
right? KUH makes a big deal about trying to use some code
word to protect his PS so nobody cancels it - and then he
feels singled out when they ask for ID?
Last question - if you're the first guests to arrive and
be seated, how in the world would you know if the guests
arriving after you are seated are asked for IDs? KUH says
they weren't - that nobody else all day was asked for ID.
what sis he do - hang around the podium for three hours and
keep track?
judy
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judy
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Posted 01-19-03
02:43 AM
quote:
We advise you to never post a trip report on any other
Disney-fan website, where the typical webmaster has no
professional security training, and persons with evil-intent
are allowed to read without being carefully pre-screened.
There are ugly people online who prey on and harrass Walt
Disney World travelers. We know who most of them are, and
they are rigorously banned from the Magic Key Club and
criminally prosecuted whenever possible.
So who are they keeping out? who is "rigorously banned"?
The site is fairly easily accessed - redundant and confusing,
but easily accessed. Anyone can read a trip report without
any security clearance or pre-screening.
And no questions about whether I had "evil intent" in reading
trip reports, either.
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Robin
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Posted 01-19-03
02:52 AM
When my friend's
kids were small, they had name tags inside their
shirts or fanny packs. No where did we want their
names displayed. We didn't want to risk strangers
come up them and pretending to know them. (Hi Amy,
you Mom is over here, and asked me to come get you.)
As for a adult wearing a badge....I just don't get
it. It might make for interesting conversation if
you have a unique name, but beyond that, I see it
as setting possibly setting yourself up as a mark
for a scam artist.
My guess is the person who insisted he not wear his badge
is the same one who 'cringed' when he told some stranger
his name. I don't see how wearing a badge would effect your
interaction with others...unless you are looking for a reaction.
I don't think he cares if it's negative or positive, he just
wants attention.
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VanBrujah
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Posted 01-19-03
03:00 AM
Anyone want
to bet on how long before "someone notifies" King
Uncle Idiot that he's being talked about again?
It's a difficult choice:
Someone this evil and insipid just BEGS for discussion, yet
discussing him is the very thing he craves most. If he didn't
have the fawning syncophants over there, he'd most likely
die of lonliness.
So, I simply choose to make fun of him. The phrase "pathetic
loser" springs to mind.
Just remember, kids: It's ALL about him.
VB
I'm not a complete idiot; some parts are missing.
FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION. It comes bundled with the software.
The original point and click interface was a Smith and Wesson.
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Francine
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Posted 01-19-03
09:07 AM
I'd love to
know just who advised KUH to not wear any name tags.
Probably his contact with the FBI, right? Or, maybe
it was his contact with the Disney board of directors.
As for wearing them, we used to wear them all the time while
we were there. It would make for fun conversations with the
CMs, and other people. I was always asked if I worked there,
or someone would come up to me and ask for directions to
something.
Personally, after getting the blue screen after the last
few visits over there, I won't go back. I have a really good
firewall, and still, somehow, something got into my PC. I
ran my Norton Utilities program, and it found errors in my
active X files. I had just run it, literally right before
I visited there, and everything was fine. Besides the fact
that they plant a million and a half cookies on your PC.
And, as for their security, well there doesn't appear to
be any that is obvious. No sign in, or anything. I mean,
look, all you evil people went over there and read.
And, VB, let's not get carried away with the it's all about
KUH stuff. Everyone knows who it's all about! Me!
Francine aka Queen Itsallaboutme
[Edited by Francine]
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Francine
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Posted 01-19-03
09:59 AM
quote:
judy wrote:
And no questions about whether I had "evil intent" in reading
trip reports, either.
So, are you saying you 'did not have evil intent with those
trip reports'? But, you did read them, correct? Tell me,
did you consider having evil intent with them? And, please,
tell the court, what exactly was your intent?
Just remember, you can expect to be criminally prosecuted
whenever possible.
Francine
Come and visit my other home on the internet Our
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Lunarlady
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Posted 01-19-03
11:31 AM
As far as wearing
his name badge, I can see people telling him not
to. After all, he appeared in a local newspaper and
pretty much told Orlando how he secured PS's for
strangers on the internet. I'm sure if he went there
just as a normal traveller would do, he would have
blended into the crowd just like everyone else.
He appears to have forgotten his bru-ha-ha over the CRT when
making his reservation - IE: making a code-word, telling
the reservationist he thought someone evil would cancel it,
making sure some "board" would be contacted before his seating
was cancelled.
Don't you think with all the history behind that ONE priority
seating, the reservationist was probably told to MAKE SURE
IT'S KUH before allowing someone to be seated in his name?
If someone had scammed his PS, don't you think he'd have
been screaming and asking why that person who took his seating
hadn't been ID'd? Yet he's now complaining that HE was ID'd?
I suspect he's a legend in his own mind and loves attention;
whether it's "fame" as King Uncle KUH or "infame" as that-evil-guy-who-is-stealing-CRT-ressies.
I suspect the worst thing that could happen to Howard
is that he's NOT recognized or even noticed, regardless of
whether it's in cyber-space or in real life. I, for one,
think it's very sad to have your happiness and self-image
be controlled by other people that way.
I'm also with Francine in that I won't go over to the other
site if I can help it. I have no wish to have my computer
altered in any way by them.
God grant me the senility to forget the people I never
liked anyway, the good fortune to run into the ones I do,
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Ajax
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Posted 01-19-03
11:35 AM
This brought
forth a chuckle from 'ol Ajax this morning-
quote:
We advise you to never post a trip report
on any other Disney-fan website, where the typical
webmaster has no professional security training,
and persons with evil-intent are allowed to read
without being carefully pre-screened. There are
ugly people online who prey on and harrass Walt
Disney World travelers. We know who most of them
are, and they are rigorously banned from the
Magic Key Club and criminally prosecuted whenever
possible.
I'm all over that site! I post weekly, sometimes daily. I'm
using the same two machines that I used when I was banned
last spring. If those folks and their vaunted ISP sniffing
software had my addys logged in their criminal file, that
wouldn't be possible now, would it?
BTW, I heard that on his last trip, KUH employed a squad
of look-alikes ala Saddam Hussein that dispersed themselves
throughout all four parks just in case hit teams had been
dispatched from the various Hater Sites. KUH was then smuggled
through Utilidors to his favorite attractions and restaurants
with a level of security befitting his celebrity/notoriety.
As proof of the Haters nefarious scheme, I understand there
was a big run on banana cream pies and adhesive-backed 'Kick
Me' signs in the Orlando area, as reported by Robert Johnson
in the Orlando Sentinel.
Did you see me at EPCOT on New Years Eve? I was wearing
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Coastalwader
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Posted 01-19-03
12:33 PM
quote:
Lunarlady wrote:
As far as wearing his name badge, I can see people telling
him not to. After all, he appeared in a local newspaper
and pretty much told Orlando how he secured PS's for strangers
on the internet.
And enough noise on the internet that somebody might ask
him a question or two. Can't say that I blame him on not
wearing a name tag regardless of whether someone had to actually "suggest" the
obvious or not. That would seem to fall under "no brainer" to
me.
If he was by himself I could see him wearing the name tag.
I think he would admit to actually enjoying the notoriety
it might bring. I'm glad he decided to cut the family some
slack though...man, they got to be really tired of this fiasco.
quote:
He appears to have forgotten his bru-ha-ha over the CRT
when making his reservation - IE: making a code-word, telling
the reservationist he thought someone evil would cancel
it, making sure some "board" would be contacted before
his seating was cancelled.
Don't you think with all the history behind that ONE priority
seating, the reservationist was probably told to MAKE SURE
IT'S KUH before allowing someone to be seated in his name?
If someone had scammed his PS, don't you think he'd have
been screaming and asking why that person who took his
seating hadn't been ID'd? Yet he's now complaining that
HE was ID'd?
I'm with you, it makes no sense. He has a "protected" PS
and wonders why others who didn't have a "code word" or whatever
weren't asked for ID. I think there is obviously some merit
in that there were previously lots of PS's made in his name
and it is now a name they would check, but either way I don't
see how this was a suprise or even noteable. Sounds like
somebody was simply doing thier job to me.
quote:
I suspect he's a legend in his own mind and loves attention;
whether it's "fame" as King Uncle KUH or "infame" as that-evil-guy-who-is-stealing-CRT-ressies.
I suspect the worst thing that could happen to Howard
is that he's NOT recognized or even noticed, regardless
of whether it's in cyber-space or in real life. I, for
one, think it's very sad to have your happiness and self-image
be controlled by other people that way.
The thing is, he is the first one to admit that he thrives
on the attention and he acknowledges that he is driven by
a very big ego. Honestly, I'm not sure if I think thats sad
or not. You know, the whole knowing that much about yourself
and what makes you tick. He readily admits to having some
traits that some feel are character flaws.
I think some of the things he's done to try to protect the
place where he gets this fix are pretty sad. He knows the
truth and yet he has gone along with all the lies.
Sacrificing integrity for personal gain....that to me is
sad. I know there was a percentage of what he did that was
done to protect YKW, his friend, and there is some degree
of admirability about that. But, that all goes out the window
when it's at the expense of others. This all clearly crossed
that line a long time ago.
King Unca Bubba Lord DisneyTex
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Francine
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Posted 01-19-03
12:36 PM
So, Ajax, what
you are saying is that you are not one of the ugly
people on the internet, and you do not have evil
intent, right? Because clearly, if you were ugly,
and had evil intent, you would be banned, and prosecuted.
I know that for a fact, because I read it on the internet.
Francine
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Mary
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Posted 01-19-03
01:06 PM
quote:
TrpltJanie wrote:
I can't afford to be hassled by evil people like....oh...umm...Mary
and Robb who keeps picking on me
Oh Boy, it looks like I'm finally a criminal! At least in
Janie's wacked out mind. (But I still love you honey).
[Edited by Mary]
Mary
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Robey
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Posted 01-19-03
03:20 PM
Very Good,
Annie!
quote:
annie wrote:
http://mm.dfilm.com/mm2s/mm_route.php?id=743206
enjoy
annie
I always wondered why somebody didn't do something
about that. Then I realized I was somebody. --Lily
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Crank
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Posted 01-19-03
03:59 PM
What I would
like to know is if there is security in place to
keep the principals away...
"Work like you don't need the money, love
like you've never been hurt, and dance like you do
when nobody's watching"
Crank-->
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Property. All Rights Reserved. Though Brilliant, Breathtaking
and Extrememly Well Written the Content contained herein
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Ajax
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Posted 01-19-03
04:12 PM
Francine, I'm
as ugly as they come and even evil on occasion. So
I guess I wouldn't fit in with the beautiful people
at MA.
I enjoy being able to anonymously mingle on that site with
people who would absolutely loathe me if they knew who I
was. That may be disingenuous, but it's fun knowing that
I've gotten past their wall. Their 'security' is a joke.
Like I said, I haven't changed a thing on my rigs, I'm just
using a different e-mail addy.
Did you see me at EPCOT on New Years Eve? I was wearing
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Peggo
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Posted 01-19-03
05:00 PM
Brava Annie.
LOL
I suppose the plans to fire up the Way-Back Machine will
now have to be cancelled since the "evil intent" plot has
been uncovered?
...Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily...life is but
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Ahnalira
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Posted 01-19-03
05:10 PM
Hmmmm... neither
Alan or have been "professionally trained in security",
but we're both securely trained professionals. Do
we get any points for that? I hope; >)
Ahnalira
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Ajax
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Posted 01-19-03
05:49 PM
Big points,
Ahnalira! Lots of 'em.
Insecure people with a marginal bit of power are to be avoided,
imo. Don't post trip reports on other Disney sites? Maybe
she's on to something.....I sure hope Crank doesn't send
my trip reports to the IRS. They still think I'm washing
cars in Detroit for $5.45 an hour. Plus tips, of course.
And I always sign my 1040 as 'Ajax'.
Did you see me at EPCOT on New Years Eve? I was wearing
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Robin
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Posted 01-19-03
07:04 PM
quote:
Ahnalira wrote:
Hmmmm... neither Alan or have been "professionally trained
in security", but we're both securely trained professionals.
Do we get any points for that? I hope; >)
Ahnalira
I don't know about 'securely trained professionals', but
I my book, you gets points for honesty, intergrity, and consistantly
positive attitude.
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Coastalwader
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Posted 01-19-03
09:09 PM
quote:
Robin wrote:
I don't know about 'securely trained professionals', but
I my book, you gets points for honesty, intergrity, and
consistantly positive attitude.
Agreed! The cream always rises to the top. Thats got to really
piss some people off too.
King Unca Bubba Lord DisneyTex
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TrpltJanie
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Posted 01-19-03
11:44 PM
quote:
Mary wrote:
Oh Boy, it looks like I'm finally a criminal! At least
in Janie's wacked out mind. (But I still love you honey).
[Edited by Mary]
Maaaaaaryyyyyyyyy! (hugs Mary) Thank you for making me fall
off of my chair laughing.
Janie
"It is not a slight thing when they, who are so fresh from God, love us." Charles
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Parker
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Posted 01-20-03
09:59 AM
Nothing new
again. Just another insinuation about how bad the
rest of the internet is. They prey on the members
lack of knowledge about how things work to create
a sense of loyalty byt making members feel uncomfortable
elsewhere.
[Edited by Parker]
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fantayzya
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Posts: 530
Registered: Aug 2002
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Posted 01-20-03
10:54 AM
I'm sorry.
If this post comes out blotchy from the tears. I'm
ROFLMAO!!!!! Ahhh I love laughing so hard I cry lol.
To the absolutely wonderful friend who I've been chatting
with over the past few days:
Hun, you were so right.
I was told that things were not all so rosy in SoCal in the
very recent past and that a possible revisiting 'shit-storm'
may be headed our way. Who-dah thunk it? lol.
Oh so funny how this stuff works out eh?
I say, let 'em have their fun, if that's what they think
it is. I dropped in there with my only intent being to see
how some that I still give a darn about were faring and if
maybe I should add a few extra thoughts or prayers for any
of them and have had 'issues' with my puter since. Yes Francine,
I too got the Blue Screen of Death for my troubles. To those
lurking from there and reporting back, I'm the least of your
worries, and frankly, with the headaches it's caused me to
give a damn about something I really did care about, it's
simply not worth it to even check in in lurk mode any more.
To those of you who are worth a remaining ounce of trust,
I'm sorry it's come to this and I wish you well. To those
who have tried to assure me you are trustworthy friends,
yet are also working to perpetuate this disaster. I also
feel sorry. For you.
I'm on to more important things. Bigger goals, and devoting
my time to things in my life that really matter and are really
important. Much of which I had put way too far down the priority
list while involved there. I guess a thank you is kind of
in order for forcing me to see things much more clearly.
"One small drop of water raises the sea" Marian in
Dinotopia
"One who grows does not grow old"-Texas Bix Bender, writer
"Look Mommy," he whispered. "The butterflies are dancing!" At that moment, inside
my soul somewhere, all the tumblers fell into place."-Kathy Storfer, "A Dig in
the Dirt," Green Prints Spring 1997
Visit WDW with my son Nate and I at Fantayzya
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Lunarlady
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Posts: 1402
Registered: Aug 2002
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Posted 01-20-03
11:54 AM
I have no clue
what's going on over there because I just don't go.
Two break-ins in one year were enough to convince
me that I'd be better served (in this sitation) to
just trust what others are saying rather than seeing
for myself.
From what I've read here, it seems that they're losing members
by the score. Perhaps they're raising the drawbridge to keep
the remaining few in?
God grant me the senility to forget the people I never
liked anyway, the good fortune to run into the ones I do,
and the eyesight to tell the difference. |
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