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VanBrujah
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Posted 12-15-02 02:08 AM

So, over in La-La land, they have posted lists of the "tragic alley members", complete with descriptions of these "members".

Way down towards the bottom, we find

" 234 tombo - * Dad, real estate developer, church Volunteer"

This brings up some interesting points / questions.

Didn't he originally claim to NOT be from RCH?
( I may be incorrect on this point.)

What do you suppose his children would think about his language and behavior over here? The members of this church he volunteers at? I am pretty sure that most of the world's major religions frown upon his antics.

Another fine example of a fine, upstanding citizen and member of the Kool-Aid Squad.

People in glass houses should not throw stones, and people without stones should stay off the high moral ground.

VanBrujah
[Edited by VanBrujah]

"Darkness was cheap...and Scrooge liked it".
Most people who want to share their religion with you usually don't want you to share your religion with them.
There is a fine line between a hobby and mental illness.

Crank
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Posted 12-15-02 02:30 PM

quote:
VanBrujah wrote:
So, over in La-La land, they have posted lists of the "tragic alley members", complete with descriptions of these "members".

Way down towards the bottom, we find

" 234 tombo - * Dad, real estate developer, church Volunteer"

This brings up some interesting points / questions.

Didn't he originally claim to NOT be from RCH?
( I may be incorrect on this point.)

What do you suppose his children would think about his language and behavior over here? The members of this church he volunteers at? I am pretty sure that most of the world's major religions frown upon his antics.

Another fine example of a fine, upstanding citizen and member of the Kool-Aid Squad.

People in glass houses should not throw stones, and people without stones should stay off the high moral ground.

VanBrujah
[Edited by VanBrujah]

While I agree with your sentiment VB, Tombo is no more of this board until he emails me and begs sincerely.

His last 10-20 posts contributed absolutely nothing of value.

However, should the group want him back I will grudgingly stipulate. For a time...

"Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, and dance like you do when nobody's watching"

Crank-->

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sarge
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Posted 12-15-02 08:15 PM

So what do you people consider is adding anything of VALUE. Oh let me guess, has to be all the cut down poems that everyone makes up about the RCH people...now that is real value isn't it. Or is it all the name calling that i see going on here? Seems if you have to stop Tombo from posting for saying his opinion that has no value, Then MOST of the members here should also be banned. Just my opinion of course.

Ajax
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Posted 12-15-02 08:29 PM

My daughter and I ventured down to Champaign, Illinois last night to see the Dave Matthews Band, who were good beyond belief BTW.
After the show, we witnessed two loadies in handcuffs propped against a retaining wall, waiting for transportation to the county hotel. Both were stained with their own vomit, and screeching nonsense at anyone who came close.
Does anyone know where tombo & sarge were last night? I think I know.

See you at Epcot on New Years Eve! I'll be the one staring into the sky with my mouth open!

sarge
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Posted 12-15-02 08:51 PM

There you go again. No one can post an opinion with out the children coming in with there cut downs. GROW UP PEOPLE.

Ajax
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Posted 12-15-02 08:55 PM

Bait. It's what's for supper!

See you at Epcot on New Years Eve! I'll be the one staring into the sky with my mouth open!

sarge
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Posted 12-15-02 08:56 PM

WOW Ajax, Now your post was of REAL VALUE wasn't it.

Tink *~*~*
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Posted 12-15-02 08:58 PM

quote:
sarge wrote:
So what do you people consider is adding anything of VALUE. Oh let me guess, has to be all the cut down poems that everyone makes up about the RCH people...now that is real value isn't it. Or is it all the name calling that i see going on here? Seems if you have to stop Tombo from posting for saying his opinion that has no value, Then MOST of the members here should also be banned. Just my opinion of course.

sarge, you may have a point here. however, I challenge you to find one, just ONE post of tombo's that was an actual contribution toward the stated reason that Common Ground exists.

Personally, I also have an objection to people posting under multiple monikers if their reasons are one or more of the following

a) they want to hide their true identities
b) they have been banned under one name and decide to take on another to get around their banishment
c) they are simply trolls and/or pot stirrers

As to cut down poems, the ultimate cut down cannot be found here where we are largely poking fun and not falsely accusing people of federal crimes. The majority of what you've found here is childish, yes - but it is not libelous.

Tink *~*~*, which could very well stand for tinkle, as in Bell.

Tink *~*~*

sarge
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Posted 12-15-02 09:03 PM

Isn't it nice that anytime someone has an opposing opinion it is said they are baiting you. But it is ok for the people here to write hateful and nasty things and everyone laughs and has a good time at someone elses expense.

sarge
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Posted 12-15-02 09:09 PM

And i agree with you Tink. I never said that Tombos post were of value, I was just pointing out that if his non value opinions caused him to be banned that there is also alot of other opinions in here that are of non value.

Dab
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Posted 12-15-02 09:12 PM

quote:
sarge wrote:
Isn't it nice that anytime someone has an opposing opinion it is said they are baiting you. But it is ok for the people here to write hateful and nasty things and everyone laughs and has a good time at someone elses expense.

Your point would be taken if it were correct. It was not opposing opinions, it was just a name call to a certain individual. An opposing opinion would be "I like the Contemporary" vs "I don't like the contemporary" but what was here was VB is a blow (whatever, I ignore so don't even remember).
For the poems and laughing, I didn't write one and I don't believe I participated however, what I saw were people joking around about RCH, the site, the owners not the individuals posting there other than the ones who are known as mass deleters.
Truth be known, the RCH is laughed at all over the internet not just here. I know people who post at other sites who don't post here and it's a joke all around. They YKW did it to themselves by all the ignorant crap they posted on their site about the FBI. It was foolish, it made them look foolish and unfortunately, some people elected to believe and help them therefore, looking foolish themselves. People here tried to tell people to check the FBI out for themselves but that's all one can do. Let me know when all the arrests happen. I'm still waiting.

Ajax
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Posted 12-15-02 09:23 PM

Nobodys holding a pistol to your head here sarge, or whoever you are. Nowhere in the board rules is there a 'value of content' clause. So if you don't like it, you can kiss off as far as I'm concerned.
But unlike your brethren from the RCH who post here and run, then delete when they get lambasted, our posts are all here for posterity to view. That is if said viewer is in the mood to read shallow, vulgar, and often hilarious ad hominem attacks on people who come here just to cause trouble, and don't have the cajones to identify themselves.

See you at Epcot on New Years Eve! I'll be the one staring into the sky with my mouth open!

Mike
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Posted 12-15-02 09:25 PM

Well, it's true that Tombo's most recent posts were juvenile and useless. I'm surprised to find out he's a dad - but he might be a young one. I'm sure any church would disapprove but even churchgoer's are not perfect.

As far as opposing opinions, they're acceptable here. The name calling gets attacked mostly. However, some can't claim to be any holier here on that note. Some of us name call even though its unprovoked, and are certainly the ones to jump on it immediately as soon as another does it.

VB, I don't see any language from Tombo that is worse than yours. As a matter of fact, I think he's just trying to top you.

I was a bit surprised you banned him, Crank, but the real shame is that when he posts his nonsense, few here are adult enough to ignore it.

Somebody there is playing with a kinked slinky!

Lunarlady
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Posted 12-15-02 09:30 PM

sarge Posted 12-15-02 09:03 PM
-----------------------------------------------------------Isn't it nice that anytime someone has an opposing opinion it is said they are baiting you. But it is ok for the people here to write hateful and nasty things and everyone laughs and has a good time at someone elses expense.
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sarge Posted 12-15-02 09:09 PM
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And i agree with you Tink. I never said that Tombos post were of value, I was just pointing out that if his non value opinions caused him to be banned that there is also alot of other opinions in here that are of non value.

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Here's a sampling of tombo's "opposing opinion" that you find is worthy of defending, sarge. IMO, he was very obviously trying to be argumentative because he was bored or something. Personally, I think Crank got sick and tired of seeing it. Myself, I just ignored it.

tombo Posted 12-12-02 09:19 PM
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VanBrujah wrote:
Can anyone else feel Disney winding up for the trmemendous Bitch Slap they are about to give her?

VanBrujah
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trmemendous spelling VanBitchslapped!!

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tombo Posted 12-13-02 03:59 PM
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VanBrujah wrote:

Charmin.

FLUSH!

VB

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I would like to assume that VanBlowey has drowned "itself"!!

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tombo Posted 12-13-02 06:10 PM
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Mary wrote:
Does Ri-Ri assign you all specific times to come over here to catch up on your reading? If so, why don't you just let us know the schedule so we can plan to be around too. Want to make sure you have a good time.
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If you are refering to me Mar-Mar I just read what VanBlow-VanBlow has to say from time to time.

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tombo Posted 12-13-02 06:20 PM
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Lunarlady wrote:
You know VB, if you keep playing with him that way, you'll grow fur on your palms.
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Lun-Lun, Why must you always try to be VanBlow-VanBlow's little echo?? He might threaten to harm you if you make him ANGRY!!!

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tombo Posted 12-13-02 11:24 PM
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Crank wrote:

Tombo, you don't seem to be contributing much besides ranking VB.

Please read the posting guidelines at the top of this forum.
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Crank as soon as the offending posts and the trash at the bottom of VB"s posts are removed I will take your posting guidelines seriously!!

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tombo Posted 12-14-02 01:04 PM
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oogie wrote:

:>

Hey,

That's funny tombo. Some call her RiRi here, so you've
made that your own by repeating peoples names. How
humorous. Kind of an homage.

Typical.

:>
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Thanks Oo-Oo!!

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tombo Posted 12-14-02 01:59 PM
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Tink *~*~* wrote:

Angel Soft

*flush*

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You and your potty jokes are really quite clever!! Fecal matter can really be a great conversation starter!! BTW is Tink short for tinkle??

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sarge
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Posted 12-15-02 09:30 PM

Yes i agree the stuff he wrote was awful, as was the 4 letter words that was answered to his post. I guess my point was not just with his post. but alot of others i have read where alot of people (from both sides) argue and start a war out of it. seems like some (not all) will do anything to keep it going and don't want to reach common ground.
Do i agree with them calling people here felons and criminals? NO i do not. Do i follow YKW2 and YKW? again NO i do not. I do read there, as i do here (in disscusion) & at the dis, for the disney info that i learn. I am not a follower of anyone at any of the sites. and i agree it has become a laughing stock all over the internet.

Dsorcerer
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Posted 12-15-02 09:35 PM

While I will agree that Tom has been less than "whatever" on this board, I will defend his right to be a dipshit here. I vote for no banning...

"After all is said and done, usually more is said than done"
" You can put a computer to sleep, but you can't kill it"
" Computers are better than Ex-wives because after you give it a hard boot, it has forgotten the last bad thing you did to it"
" Pull this finger, and I make a sound"
" some people see the glass as half empty, some as half full, I see a glass that is just too darn big for the beverage"

Dsorcerer
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Posted 12-15-02 09:38 PM

But you must stop doing the delete crap, tom tom!!!

sarge
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Posted 12-15-02 09:41 PM

Ajax
I never said that the post here HAD to add value. I was replying to a post that said tombo was banned because his last 10 post had no value. BTW I don't like his attitude or language either.

fantayzya
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Posted 12-15-02 09:42 PM

Here's my 25 cents:

As much as I'm disappointed in the way things have been going in regard to Tombo, from both directions, as I remember having some great conversations with him, and I'd prefer that most of the posts I've seen, especially lately, would never have been put out there, I'm uncomfortable with the idea of banning him.

The banning thing is one of the many issues several of us have with how things were handled at RCH. To do that here, despite even my own opinion about how childish this has been, would seem a bit hypocritical. There have been a**hole attacks on both sides. To ban one person from one side, is it fair? Is it doing what they say? Allowing editorial comments from only one perspective? Not sure, just asking.

And Sarge, who ever you are, get a clue. To toss out accusations when groups of your playground buddies come over here, post, stir up trouble, and then delete it all, discussing all the while what a big joke it is,(and I was personally told by one of your cohorts that this was the case) well, frankly after repeat performances of this juvenile behavior I don't believe you have the right to question our suspicion of posts by these folks. Use a choke chain and rein 'em in and maybe the way they (Clubhouseketeers aka Alley Kats) are viewed by others, even beyond here, will improve.

Just my opinion. But then, I doubt I could post any opinion in your litter box.

"One small drop of water raises the sea" Marian in Dinotopia

" One who grows does not grow old"-Texas Bix Bender, writer

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DWDreams
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Posted 12-15-02 09:44 PM

quote:
Dsorcerer wrote:
While I will agree that Tom has been less than "whatever" on this board, I will defend his right to be a dipshit here. I vote for no banning...

I have to agree with this also, particularly since many (including myself)have posted something that could be viewed as childish or just plain unfunny. Anyhow, I appreciate free speech within reason. Banning for childishness is akin to replacing words with smilies I think. But I do know that's just my opinion and I respect those who disagree.

Dsorcerer
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Posted 12-15-02 09:49 PM

oops...I guess I just called Tom tom a dipshit...in a public forum....where is that damn delete key????

Ajax
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Posted 12-15-02 09:53 PM

As far as I'm concerned, tombo can stay or be banned, to me it doesn't matter which. He made my personal 'ignore' list quite some time ago. It's easy to do.

See you at Epcot on New Years Eve! I'll be the one staring into the sky with my mouth open!

sarge
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Posted 12-15-02 09:55 PM

Like i said Fan, there not my playground buddies. I read at several sites for the disney info i learn at each site.

Robey
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Posted 12-15-02 09:58 PM

Opposing Opinions, writing a parody, and even Vehemently disagreeing with someone is quite exceptable here.

There is nothing of substance about Tombo's posts.

Tombo just comes here to TO call people names.
Nothing more.

I was very surprised to hear that he is an adult.

I always wondered why somebody didn't do something about that. Then I realized I was somebody. --Lily Tomlin

Robey
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Posted 12-15-02 10:01 PM

Yes but Tombo doesn't post anything EXCEPT name calling.

quote:
DWDreams wrote: I have to agree with this also, particularly since many (including myself)have posted something that could be viewed as childish or just plain unfunny.

I always wondered why somebody didn't do something about that. Then I realized I was somebody. --Lily Tomlin

Parker
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Posted 12-15-02 10:02 PM

Ok, why not. Here is my opinion.

I support the banning of Tombo if he cannot control himself. It's not that his posts are insulting or vulgar, but rather are aimed directly at one particular member reguarldless of the topic or theme of discussion. I may be seeing this as slightly one sided, but what I see is Tombo directly posting insults, again reguardless of the topic and having nothing closely relevant to the topic of discussion, to VanBrujah after almost every posts. I have no problem with a person that occasionally gets pissed and responds harshly. However, when it becomes an insulting post after a certain person posts everytime, it begins to move into a questionable category.

I do think he should be given a chance to alter his behavior first though.

[Edited by Parker]

Ajax
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Posted 12-15-02 10:12 PM

I think that tombo's had his second call from the Governor, Parker. If I'm not mistaken he's spent time in the CG woodshed before.
But his cardinal sin is this- he's not funny. I'll accept insults all day long if they make me laugh. Tombo's post-to-laffs ratio was unacceptable.

See you at Epcot on New Years Eve! I'll be the one staring into the sky with my mouth open!

Dsorcerer
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Posted 12-15-02 10:19 PM

Well I just want to go on the record...That Parker is Kewl!

LOL

VanBrujah
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Posted 12-15-02 10:30 PM

Hey, all I wanted to do was point out the entertaining facts about our favorite troll. I didn't mean to stir up the pot like this.

BTW, Sarge, Tombo WAS warned to change his ways, but chose not to. If he isn't bright enough to see that, oh well.

Rest assured, he will probably return as "Tomba","Tombe"
" Tombay", "Deja Vu", or some other such nonsense, so you will not have to miss him for long.

10 days until Christmas!

VanBrujah

VanBrujah
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Posted 12-15-02 10:34 PM

quote:
Crank wrote:
While I agree with your sentiment VB, Tombo is no more of this board until he emails me and begs sincerely.

His last 10-20 posts contributed absolutely nothing of value.

However, should the group want him back I will grudgingly stipulate. For a time...

I just wanted to point out that I was not trying to taunt the local moron into getting himself banned, nor was my intention to slam him, knowing that he would be unable to respond. For some reason he has decided to make himself my "special friend", and I foolishly have been responding. Thanks to some well needed advice (and thanks - you know who you are) I know what MY response is going to be from here on in.

I personally don't care if you let him back or not, however.

VanBrujah

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