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MrShiny
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 Posted 01-23-03 11:31 AM

You know the more I read of him, i just have no other response than pity. It must be very hard to be what he's made himself. Whatever pleasure he obviously gets from his behavior seems to be the only pleasures he allows himself.


Robey
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 Posted 01-23-03 12:11 PM
quote:
MrShiny wrote:
You know the more I read of him, i just have no other response than pity. It must be very hard to be what he's made himself. Whatever pleasure he obviously gets from his behavior seems to be the only pleasures he allows himself.



Where ya been bud? ............

Ditto.
He is a sad human form living a sad life.
His only pleasure appears to be derived from what is given to him by people that don't even know him on a personal level. And what is given to him is not really anything substantial. Very sad.

However, my sympathy evaporates when he lashes out at those that simply do not conform to his wishes to be idolized, Or by acknowledging him as "King Uncle Howie", or an "Angel". He craves this so much that he is willing to do anything FOR it and TO anyone that is not willing to provide this for him.

Howard NEEDS to be "special".
His need manifests in many ways:

First in everything
Special accomodations just for HIM
Recognition
Pushing people out of the way to get the "Best" seat.
Breaking the Rules and getting away with it.
Name Dropping
Lying to get attention.
Manipulation
Exageration.

All the traits you pray that your child will outgrow.





I always wondered why somebody didn't do something about that. Then I realized I was somebody. --Lily Tomlin
Lunarlady
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 Posted 01-23-03 12:28 PM
I think he's just sad. My mental picture of him is this three year old in short pants and a dirty shirt banging on the bars of his playpen screaming for someone to notice him.

It's very sad. He doesn't hurt me because people who behave in the manner y'all described are typically not people of influence, however it's sad that he lets others define who he is and what he's worth. Until he gets over this need for recognition and applause, he will be forever controlled by the whims and desires of others.

Like Madonna says: Poor is the man whose pleasures depend on the permission of another.
God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, the good fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the difference.
Ajax
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 Posted 01-23-03 12:36 PM 
What piques my curiosity about Howie is his need to publicize his success and the methods he uses, most of which I find questionable, if not downright unethical. Why? He should be secure in his life if everything he posts is true.
IMO, his trip reports were ruined by his constant litany of 'I was first', and his vicious trips to the soapbox.

I had a wonderful trip! I felt the Magic! I was first everywhere I went! I taught our child that it was OK to obfuscate the truth! I hope all the nasty things Rita wants to do to those horrid people comes to fruition

See? Something’s not right. That's the same feeling I got when he'd make his late night raids over here, then delete everything the next day.

I hope his head clears, because in some of his posts I saw a likeable guy.

Did you see me at EPCOT on New Years Eve? I was wearing a yellow poncho...
TrpltJanie
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 Posted 01-23-03 01:00 PM
quote:
Robey wrote:
He craves this so much that he is willing to do anything FOR it and TO anyone that is not willing to provide this for him.




And he justifies his spiteful attacks like a snooty high school girl. I read parts of his trip report--PARTS of it because it was tedious to read about him thumping his own chest over the wonderful things that HE got--and there is one thing that I do not understand:


He claimed that he got the table by the podium and saw other people being seated without being asked for their IDs. I took my oldest to CRT in 1997 and from what I can remember, the podium was at ground level and we waited by the podium for a few minutes before we were escorted to our table UPSTAIRS so is there a table that is in view of the podium that I'm NOT aware of? We did have 8:05 CRT reservation but decided not to go 'cause we were having too much fun doing other stuff.


As for the book review that *offended* him, he supported Dave's little tirade and talked about his grandmother's holocaust experiences BEFORE I posted my review. You can ask others who read his post about it and how he stood by Dave's little Hitler remark so he could keep his little "Pollyanna" world intact.


Now...THAT is sad.



Janie
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Crank
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 Posted 01-23-03 01:04 PM
All I can say about Ohowie Been Smhoozin is he's exactly where he belongs.

What better punishment?
"Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, and dance like you do when nobody's watching"

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Ajax
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 Posted 01-23-03 01:26 PM
Janie said-

quote:
I took my oldest to CRT in 1997 and from what I can remember, the podium was at ground level and we waited by the podium for a few minutes before we were escorted to our table UPSTAIRS so is there a table that is in view of the podium that I'm NOT aware of?


The podium is now outside the main doors. After you check in, you walk into a chamber where Cindy sits on her throne (don't go there, Crank). When your table's ready, a bell is rung, your name is called, and you're given a card and directed to either the staircase or the elevator. When we hit the top, I think we then gave our card to the hostess, and she seated us. I can't remember the rest, I was fried.
Did you see me at EPCOT on New Years Eve? I was wearing a yellow poncho...
Crank
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 Posted 01-23-03 02:24 PM
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Ajax wrote:
(don't go there, Crank).



I was gonna say, how embarassing...
"Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, and dance like you do when nobody's watching"

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TrpltJanie
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 Posted 01-23-03 02:48 PM
quote:
Ajax wrote:
Janie said-



The podium is now outside the main doors. After you check in, you walk into a chamber where Cindy sits on her throne (don't go there, Crank). When your table's ready, a bell is rung, your name is called, and you're given a card and directed to either the staircase or the elevator. When we hit the top, I think we then gave our card to the hostess, and she seated us. I can't remember the rest, I was fried.




Thanks for explaining, Ajax. The reason why I stood by the podium with my Sarah was because I was B.C.I --before cochlear implant. The food itself wasn't all that great but the decor of the restuarant was very nice. As for you being fried--don't blame my skillet!
Janie
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Robey
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 Posted 01-23-03 03:15 PM
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TrpltJanie wrote: The reason why I stood by the podium with my Sarah was because I was B.C.I --before cochlear implant.


There is no reason to stand beside that podium (other than why janie did) unless you are smoozing and making sure they know who you are. They do NOT want you to hang around the podium. There is very little space. He put it in his trip report in order to further reiterate just how important he is. (NOT!) Unfortunately, it is transparent to most. Just plain silly, it is.
I always wondered why somebody didn't do something about that. Then I realized I was somebody. --Lily Tomlin
Jsgirl
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 Posted 01-23-03 04:04 PM
quote:
MrShiny wrote:
You know the more I read of him, i just have no other response than pity. It must be very hard to be what he's made himself. Whatever pleasure he obviously gets from his behavior seems to be the only pleasures he allows himself.

I too have been thinking along these lines lately. I will try to feel happy that there are adults that have never suffered a loss or tragedy important enough to them to have learned compassion for others. To have never learned to weigh hardships. To watch the news and hear of the things that others have (are) suffering and feel that not wearing a name tag at WDW is an important loss. How sad to be so shallow and believe in the face of recent events that those that disagree with you over a breakfast are the real "Haters" in this world. I will however, as I said try to feel happy for them instead of the pity I feel right now.
rubbernecker
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 Posted 01-23-03 04:05 PM
I'd just like to interrupt this thread to say hello to Howie. As much as he complains about people psychoanalyzing him, it's always outweighed by the pleasure of people talking about him. Right, Howie? We may be little more than flies buzzing around shit, but at least the buzz is centered on The King.

(Not that Howie is shit.)

(Not that he isn't.)

Since it is apparently good to be the king, my plan for my upcoming trip is to make all my PS under the name "King Uncle Howard Ditchek, Lover of Disney, Friend of Eisner, Enabler of Dreams." The CMs will assume that I'm Howie and they'll talk to me and stuff. Of course, every one of them will have heard of me and they'll all be on "my" side, due to Howie being right about everything.

Then, once my identity as Howie is firmly established, and every CM at WDW has "my" name on their lips, that's when I'll pull the stunt that gets me banned from the parks forever. (I won't go into details here, except to say that I'm naming the stunt "The Friendship Fountain") The security CMs will assume I'm Howie, then he will get banned, and I will have some great stories to tell.

Maybe RiRi will even let me host my own private chat: "Being a Boorish Liar at WDW -- Getting Your Way Is Way Cool!"
Hoping RiRi gives me some conjugal visits when I go to prison . . .
Robin
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 Posted 01-23-03 07:09 PM
quote:
Ajax wrote:
...When your table's ready, a bell is rung, your name is called....


Isn't that the same way you call a dog when he's been in the yard too long?
I toss my cookies for Disney.
VanBrujah
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 Posted 01-23-03 10:21 PM
quote:
rubbernecker wrote:
Since it is apparently good to be the king, my plan for my upcoming trip is to make all my PS under the name "King
Then, once my identity as Howie is firmly established, and every CM at WDW has "my" name on their lips, that's when I'll pull the stunt that gets me banned from the parks forever. (I won't go into details here, except to say that I'm naming the stunt "The Friendship Fountain") The security CMs will assume I'm Howie, then he will get banned, and I will have some great stories to tell.




I LOVE IT!

If you do it, I will do the same thing at a different park.

Maybe I will start posting on other boards using that name...

hmmmm....


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fabdisbabe
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 Posted 01-28-03 03:07 AM
It's probably just....compensating.

Fab

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Ajax
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 Posted 01-28-03 09:50 AM
Yep Fab, that's it. That's why I'm OK with 'That S.O.B. Ajax'. I'm secure.
Did you see me at EPCOT on New Years Eve? I was wearing a yellow poncho...
TrpltJanie
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 Posted 01-28-03 11:20 AM
quote:
Ajax wrote:
Yep Fab, that's it. That's why I'm OK with 'That S.O.B. Ajax'. I'm secure.




I'm okay with "simpleton Janie" I'm secure also! Tee hee!!!
[Edited by TrpltJanie]
Janie
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Robb
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 Posted 01-28-03 11:57 AM
Might we let this thread run it's course as well?
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TrpltJanie
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 Posted 01-28-03 12:07 PM
Sure thing Robb! (whips out the whoopie cushion)




Phhhhhhhhhhhffffffffffffffttttttttttt!
Janie
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Lunarlady
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 Posted 01-28-03 12:07 PM
You mean like the Norwalk Virus, Robb?
God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, the good fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the difference.
Robb
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 Posted 01-28-03 12:12 PM
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Lunarlady wrote:
You mean like the Norwalk Virus, Robb?



Funny LL! (Getting out the thread lock keys...)
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