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poohlover
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Posted 01-22-03 06:17 PM

I see that ykw is now guaranteeing that the site will be absolutely safe because they will be interviewing members.

Geesh wish it really was that easy to guaranty safety. This is one place where they probably do have an exclusive.

Locally, a top level prosecutor who used to be a cop was arrested yesterday. Allegedly he was masterbating on a webcam for the benefit of a person he believed to be a child.

Hmm I would say he went thru a few screening processes. First as a cop, then as a member of a bar, and then repeatedly as he was hired and promoted as a prosecutor.

Just an example.

I cannot think of any other example of a business being so ill advised as to "guaranty" that the public is safe around their employees or customers.

Could it be that the fox himself is encouraging the sheep to let their guards down. Or could it just be a marketing ploy?

Anyway, I still await with bated breath the moment most of the site truly becomes "private." I do hope we wont have to wait around as long as we will be waiting to see the Raelian's "cloned baby."

Some thoughts for today

Michelle

Robey
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Registered: Aug 2002

Posted 01-22-03 08:17 PM

quote:
poohlover wrote:
Could it be that the fox himself is encouraging the sheep to let their guards down. Or could it just be a marketing ploy? Michelle

The fox already revealed himself by guiding the "members" on how to lower their firewall, etc in order to "properly access" that website. He also revealed himself when he "fixed" someone's computer problem remotely. (yes, remotely from HIS computer) and posted it on that website.

I always wondered why somebody didn't do something about that. Then I realized I was somebody. --Lily Tomlin

TrpltJanie
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Posted 01-22-03 08:33 PM

quote:
Robey wrote:

The fox already revealed himself by guiding the "members" on how to lower their firewall, etc in order to "properly access" that website. He also revealed himself when he "fixed" someone's computer problem remotely. (yes, remotely from HIS computer) and posted it on that website.

And he BOASTED about *fixing* someone's computer which was very moronic thing to do. He's the idiot burglar who *breaks* into peoples' houses and then claim that he was just helping someone to vacuum the floor then goes on to make a point---while thumping his own puny chest--- that he can do it because he is so *smart*?!

The fox is actually the dodo.

Janie
"It is not a slight thing when they, who are so fresh from God, love us." Charles Dickens

'over the shoulder boulder holder'

Robin
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Registered: Aug 2002

Posted 01-22-03 10:50 PM

But then again, who's more a fool. The person who admits they 'broke in' or the person who thanks them for doing it?

I just can't believe how naive some people are.

I toss my cookies for Disney.

Señor Sñap
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Posts: 123
Registered: Sep 2002

Posted 01-23-03 01:51 AM

quote:
Robey wrote:
The fox already revealed himself by guiding the "members" on how to lower their firewall, etc in order to "properly access" that website. He also revealed himself when he "fixed" someone's computer problem remotely. (yes, remotely from HIS computer) and posted it on that website.

Using the words from your post it seems you are trying to say
"The fox revealed himself in order to properly access his member. He also posted it on that website."

TrpltJanie
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Posts: 1368
Registered: Aug 2002

Posted 01-23-03 01:56 AM

quote:
Señor Sñap wrote:

Using the words from your post it seems you are trying to say
"The fox revealed himself in order to properly access his member. He also posted it on that website."

(eyes pop out of my head and then I blush bright red)

SENOR SNAP!

Janie
"It is not a slight thing when they, who are so fresh from God, love us." Charles Dickens

'over the shoulder boulder holder'

Robey
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Posts: 915
Registered: Aug 2002

Posted 01-23-03 08:20 AM

quote:
Señor Sñap wrote:

Using the words from your post it seems you are trying to say "The fox revealed himself in order to properly access his member. He also posted it on that website."

Oh my!

I always wondered why somebody didn't do something about that. Then I realized I was somebody. --Lily Tomlin

Parker
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Posts: 457
Registered: Sep 2002

Posted 01-23-03 04:40 PM

quote:
poohlover wrote:
I see that ykw is now guaranteeing that the site will be absolutely safe because they will be interviewing members.

Geesh wish it really was that easy to guaranty safety. This is one place where they probably do have an exclusive.

Locally, a top level prosecutor who used to be a cop was arrested yesterday. Allegedly he was masterbating on a webcam for the benefit of a person he believed to be a child.

Hmm I would say he went thru a few screening processes. First as a cop, then as a member of a bar, and then repeatedly as he was hired and promoted as a prosecutor.

Just an example.

I cannot think of any other example of a business being so ill advised as to "guaranty" that the public is safe around their employees or customers.

Could it be that the fox himself is encouraging the sheep to let their guards down. Or could it just be a marketing ploy?

Anyway, I still await with bated breath the moment most of the site truly becomes "private." I do hope we wont have to wait around as long as we will be waiting to see the Raelian's "cloned baby."

Some thoughts for today

Michelle

Michelle,

as far back as I can remember, there have always been offhand remarks about how unsafe, unsavory or unkind the other internet sites are. I think it's an attempt the make people feel uncomfortable at other sites and to only trust the Readersclubhouse or MagicAlley staff.

I mean after all, if you are forced to leave or decide to leave, there is no telling what you're opening yourself and your family up to out there.

Go Bucs!

Peggo
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Posts: 614
Registered: Sep 2002

Posted 01-23-03 08:10 PM

Hummm, do all the other Disney sites expect you to open your computer and it's files to their scrutiny? Or do they just offer friendly advice?

...Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily...life is but a dream

Lunarlady
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Posts: 1431
Registered: Aug 2002

Posted 01-23-03 09:04 PM

quote:
Robey wrote:
The fox already revealed himself by guiding the "members" on how to lower their firewall, etc in order to "properly access" that website.

Yeah, baby. I can get behind THIS thread!

God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, the good fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the difference.

Tink *~*~*
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Posts: 1027
Registered: Aug 2002

Posted 01-23-03 10:51 PM

LL, you saw Lilo & Stitch - finally!

Wasn't that scene with the voodoo spoons hilarious?

Tink *~*~*

MidNite
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Posts: 261
Registered: Aug 2002

Posted 01-24-03 01:59 AM

quote:
TrpltJanie wrote:

And he BOASTED about *fixing* someone's computer which was very moronic thing to do.

*wave* Hi Janie! Loved your trip report. Would love to run into you some day. But, then again, I've probably not got enough energy to keep up with you :o/

ANYwho, it is my understanding that on Windows XP there is a feature built-in where you can give someone permission to access your computer to help fix problems.

Just fyi

MidNite's °o° Disney Dreaming

Crank
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Posts: 1711
Registered: Aug 2002

Posted 01-24-03 12:14 PM

quote:
MidNite wrote:

*wave* Hi Janie! Loved your trip report. Would love to run into you some day. But, then again, I've probably not got enough energy to keep up with you :o/

ANYwho, it is my understanding that on Windows XP there is a feature built-in where you can give someone permission to access your computer to help fix problems.

Just fyi

There is absolutely NO WAY I would consider giving BIG BOTHER (yes I left out the "r") access to my machine.

Hard telling what he/she would put there...

Another question would be, if they have access to your machine who would be liable for obscene content contained therein?

They've already demonstrated their intent with past actions so who's to say they couldn't plant something and then turn you in to the authorities?

Shoot, some of their broadband members could be hosting the whole shebang and not even know it...

" Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, and dance like you do when nobody's watching"

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Lunarlady
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Posts: 1431
Registered: Aug 2002

Posted 01-24-03 12:22 PM

TINK!! Yes I finally saw Lilo and Stitch and thought of you when that scene came on. You're right...it's me!!

In answer to another question about Windows XP: YES, there is a feature where you can allow another person to access your computer to fix it. I turned that slimey little feature off a long time ago. If I had the time right now, I'd go spelunking and find it so y'all would know how to do it too, but I'm already late for going somewhere.

I think it's in the network connections portion of "My settings", but I'm not sure. Just do some searching. I think I found it under some guise of allowing tech support to assist you. My feeling is if I ever need tech support, they can tell me over the phone how to bring it back online again.

God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, the good fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the difference.

Lunarlady
Cast Member

Posts: 1431
Registered: Aug 2002

Posted 01-24-03 12:32 PM

Ok...it was bugging me.

Here ya go, Windows XP users:

Click: Control Panel

Click: System

Click: Remote

Click: "Advanced" box to see if the "Allow this computer to be controlled remotely" is unchecked. You also might want to change the invitation time to 1 minute instead of the default 1 day.

Hit OK to save your changes, then uncheck "Allow Remote Assistance invitations to be sent from this computer" and this will turn the "Advanced" box dark.

I'm paranoid that a script or an update will get into my PC and automatically re-instate that "Allow Remote Assistance" feature to be turned back on, that's why I changed my invitation time to 1 minute instead of leaving it open one day.

Best of luck.

God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, the good fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the difference.

Parker
Cast Member

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Registered: Sep 2002

Posted 01-24-03 03:18 PM

You can also give a person access through netmeeting.

Go Bucs!

Robey
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Posts: 915
Registered: Aug 2002

Posted 01-24-03 05:20 PM

Yeah but....

Back when.... little "buddies" invaded your computer that allowed backdoor access. Many of us here were remotely invaded and the associated RCH files were tampered with.

We found the "little buddies" while doing intense scans of the computer~ after finding the files and the software corrupted.

No doubt where they came from, there is no doubt who put them there, there is no doubt why they were there.

I always wondered why somebody didn't do something about that. Then I realized I was somebody. --Lily Tomlin

Crank
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Posted 01-25-03 12:58 PM

quote:
Parker wrote:
You can also give a person access through netmeeting.

OR you don't have to grant access at all:

http://www.msu.edu/~meece/screenshots/

(thanks Ed!)

Ajax
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Posts: 876
Registered: Aug 2002

Posted 01-25-03 01:12 PM

That's playing dirty, isn't it?

Wanna see something neat? Look where you wind up when you access this web address listed on Dr. Meece's hacking chronology-

http://dr-v.com/

Did you see me at EPCOT on New Years Eve? I was wearing a yellow poncho...

Crank
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Posted 01-25-03 01:29 PM

quote:
Ajax wrote:
That's playing dirty, isn't it?

Wanna see something neat? Look where you wind up when you access this web address listed on Dr. Meece's hacking chronology-

http://dr-v.com/

WARNING! Norton I/S went crazy blocking ActiveX Programs when I went to that site!!

AVOID AT ALL COSTS! ActiveX controls are programs that are run on your machine WITHOUT YOUR EXPRESSED PERMISSION!

Any site that uses activex you had better trust implicitely!

Robey
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Posted 01-25-03 01:40 PM

quote:
Ajax wrote:
http://dr-v.com/

Warning...to those that "don't go there".....
Ittakes you to Tragic Alley.

Geesh Ajax,,, give us a warning next time!

I always wondered why somebody didn't do something about that. Then I realized I was somebody. --Lily Tomlin

Robey
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Registered: Aug 2002

Posted 01-25-03 01:47 PM

quote:
Crank wrote: WARNING! Norton I/S went crazy blocking ActiveX Programs when I went to that site!!

AVOID AT ALL COSTS! ActiveX controls are programs that are run on your machine WITHOUT YOUR EXPRESSED PERMISSION!

Any site that uses activex you had better trust implicitely!

You can Have Norton ask you about each Active X transmission.

I always wondered why somebody didn't do something about that. Then I realized I was somebody. --Lily Tomlin

Crank
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Posted 01-25-03 01:56 PM

quote:
Robey wrote:

You can Have Norton ask you about each Active X transmission.

And I DO!

Ajax
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Posted 01-25-03 02:30 PM

Why doesn't my machine 'go nuts' when I access that site? I have 'Internet Cleanup', 'Norton AV', and the free 'Zone Alarm' utilities installed.
Whenever I visit 'that' site, I open 'Internet Cleanup', delete any new cookies, and launch an Active-X sweep. Nothing shows, and the only Active-X program I've found was for a Flash into to John Mellencamps' site.
Is it because I've deleted all Active-X installations on my rig using the Windows '98 Internet Options Security tool? Or are only certain people with known ISP's targeted?

Did you see me at EPCOT on New Years Eve? I was wearing a yellow poncho...

Robey
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Registered: Aug 2002

Posted 01-25-03 03:17 PM

quote:
Ajax wrote:
Or are only certain people with known ISP's targeted?

Hmm I am betting it is this one.

I always wondered why somebody didn't do something about that. Then I realized I was somebody. --Lily Tomlin

Crank
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Posted 01-25-03 05:14 PM

quote:
Robey wrote:

Hmm I am betting it is this one.

Yeah, Ajax, why doesn't YOURS go crazy? Uh-huh.

Trip to WDW, you went and joined the MIB didn't you?

Ajax
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Posted 01-26-03 12:14 PM

Crank wrote-

quote:
Yeah, Ajax, why doesn't YOURS go crazy? Uh-huh.

Trip to WDW, you went and joined the MIB didn't you?

Not a chance! And don't try tricking me into a confession by throwing 'Rita-Speak' at me, either. I've seen 'Stalag 17' at least a dozen times.

Did you see me at EPCOT on New Years Eve? I was wearing a yellow poncho...

Crank
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Posted 01-26-03 02:53 PM

quote:
Ajax wrote:
Crank wrote-

Not a chance! And don't try tricking me into a confession by throwing 'Rita-Speak' at me, either. I've seen 'Stalag 17' at least a dozen times.

Now, more than ever, you will....

Just kidding!

I would imagine you could set-up zone alarm to warn of activex scripts under options.

Anybody know for sure?

phamton
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Posted 01-26-03 04:27 PM

I got this information about Active X:

Even with a firewall, no computer attached to the internet is 100% secure. Firewalls can only block unwanted connections. They can't prevent attacks that come through vulnerabilities in connections that you want to initiate (like those that might exist in your web browser or P2P file-sharing app.)

Active X is a Microsoft Windows-specific thing. It's a shared-library mechanism used for embedding stuff within documents. When used in the context of Internet Explorer, Active X applets are similar to stuff that is displayed with plugins. Active X applets can do anything a plugin can do - which is pretty much anything.

An attack might take the form of a web page that embeds a malicious Active X applet. People viewing the web page with IE will download the applet, and it will run. IE can be configured to reject Active X controls that are not digitally signed by a trusted source, but some people (foolishly) turn this off. There are also bugs in IE which may allow a malicious web page to bypass the security settings.

Note, however, that this kind of attack will not be stopped by a firewall. Your web browser is explicitly requesting a download of the malicious applet. Firewalls are not going to block a connection request from an application that is allowed to establish connections (like your web browser.)

Bev

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Ajax
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Posted 01-26-03 04:28 PM

I get into 'tools' in my Internet Explorer top toolbar, open 'Internet Options', open 'Security', open 'Custom Level', and disable all Acive-X related items. Sometimes I'll get a message window on a site that says because I've disabled Acive-X, the site might not display the way it should. I don't get that message at Tragic Alley, go figure. But I have on 'The Drudge Report', and on a Detroit Tigers message board.

Did you see me at EPCOT on New Years Eve? I was wearing a yellow poncho...

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